Wednesday, January 29, 2025

Interview about Edmond Hamilton and Leigh Brackett

 




Science Fiction Book Club

Interview with John Grayshaw (Jan 2025)

 

John Grayshaw is the creator and administrator of SFBC on Facebook. He has done about 100 of these Q and A interviews with science fiction authors, biographers, historians, and other experts. He recently had a research article about orphaned stories from Harlan Ellison’s Last Dangerous Visions published in Amazing Stories.

Wesley Grubb: What was Edmond Hamilton’s bestselling, or most successful, book that he wrote?   

His Captain Future stories were published in sci-fi magazines from 1940 to 1951 and later published as novels. There were about 30 stories.

Among his novels, the most successful were ‘The Star Kings’ series: ‘The Star Kings’ (1949) and ‘Return to the Stars’ (1968) and the ‘Starwolf’ series ‘The Weapons from Beyond’ (1967), ‘The Closed Worlds’ (1968) and ‘The World of the Starwolves’ (1968).

Wesley Grubb: Edmond Hamilton is one of those bridge-authors, who began writing before the “Golden Age” and continued to write into the “New Wave” era. How well did his writing develop, and how well did his stories mature, from his early career compared to his later career in the 50s and 60s? 

In a 1975 interview with Luna Monthly, Hamilton talked about how quickly he was writing stories back in the pulp era. He said:

How do I feel about the rapid, high-production way we oldtime pulp writers employed in our work? I can’t speak for others, but for me it was the best way in the world to work. I might have been a more polished writer had I worked in more leisurely fashion, but I might too have been the centipede who didnt know which leg to lift first.

One of the most ghastly stories I ever wrote was “Outside the Universe,” a wild tale of three galaxies at war. I wrote that in 1928, over 50,000 words of it first draft. I used a very small portable typewriter on a big, flat-top inherited desk. In writing those hectic space-battles, my hard pounding made the little typewriter creep all over the desk, and I would stand up and follow it in my burning enthusiasm.”

In the same Luna interview he also talked about the so called “sci-fi ghetto”:

I think that there has been too much crying about sf being forced into a ghetto, and away from the mainstream. I think this is a lot of b.s. The reason why us pulp writers of sf didn’t appear in the mainstream was simply that we weren’t good enough writers for the mainstream. Those of us who were good enough . . . Bob Heinlein, Ray Bradbury, and a few others, were welcomed by mainstream markets.”

He was asked in Tangent interview if he regrets not winning more Sci-fi awards and he said:

I’d be delighted to get one, too. I was also nominated for one, but most of our science fiction has been in the adventure/entertainment scene. If you don’t have Big Thinks in it the people who vote on these are not greatly impressed. If they can understand every word of it, then it can’t be great you know? Thats their attitude.”

In the 1975 interview with Luna Monthly, Hamilton lamented the more modern New Wave trend of literary science fiction over science fiction with an emphasis on science: 

About my interest in science, and the attitude of us early sf writers toward science, I believe you have cleared up for me a puzzling thing about many present day sf writers . . . their lack of interest in science. This explains the mystery (to me) of why so many of them have not the slightest interest in the space program and its great achievements. To me, sf without the scientific element amounts to very little. I believe that young writers do regard stories not as something whose subject matter interests them passionately, i.e. scientific possibilities, but as exercises in English lit. I dont think without true passion about whatever you write, no matter how crude it may be, you can ever be as happy writing. That is just my opinion.”

Jason Bleckly: How does Allen Steele's resurrection of Captain Future compare with Edmond's original stories?

Firstly, lets talk about Captain Future in general. Edmond Hamilton authored most of the Captain Future stories, but the character was created by Better Publications editors Mort Weisinger and Leo Margulies before the 1st World Science Fiction Convention in 1939 and announced at that Convention. His stories were published in the namesake pulp magazine from 1940 to 1944, after which more stories written by Hamilton were published in various sci-fi magazines until 1951.

Hamilton talked about the series in his 1975 Luna Monthly interview. Mostly he was using it as an example of how fast he was writing in those days

I stopped writing so fast, long ago. I did make an exception for the Captain Future series. They didm’t at first pay much for those. So I did them first draft, a chapter a day, allowing 2 days for the first chapter, which is more difficult. Later, when they upped the price they paid, I did two drafts and the writing of the stories improved. There is no use, however, in giving advice to someone to write at high speed, because as I say, the market has so changed that you can’t sell that high-speed stuff any more. I should explain, referring to my statement on the Captain Future series, that I did not make a practice of hurrying the writing of stories that would not pay well. Ive always believed that a writer should do every story the very best he can, no matter if it'll be paid for in buttons. But I was trying to make a living writing sf, and when they asked me to take on the Captain Future chore, I had to specify that until they could pay more for the stories, I’d have to do them in as little time as possible. They agreed, and the first few of them were just sort of written off as rapidly as possible . . . though I had made out a schema of background for the stories, which I adhered to carefully. But I have never believed in dashing out a story because it was an unpretentious thing.”

According to the SF Encyclopaedia: Hamilton's early 1940s absence from adult sf, through his work in comics and his involvement with Captain Future (Young Adult titles aimed primarily at teenaged boys), made it initially somewhat difficult for him to be accepted after World War II as a competent and versatile professional.

Coming back to the question about Allen Steele; he has done two very different takes on Captain Future. He first did a novella ‘The Death of Captain Future’ (1995), which is set in Steele’s ‘Near Space’ universe. In the story, a man named Bo McKinnon collects "ancient pulp magazines" and acts out a fantasy life based on the Captain Future stories. Steeles, more gritty universe contrasts with the Future’s Pulp setting. The novella won the 1996 Hugo Award for Best Novella. ‘The Exile of Evening Star’ (1999) continues and concludes the story. They include many quotes from the original stories.

Then Steele wrote ‘Avengers of the Moon: A Captain Future Novel' (2017). It is a continuity reboot which gently updates the narrative (including the science) to fit with a more modern sensibility. The novel features the main characters from the original stories and presents a new origin story for its protagonist. ‘Captain Future in Love’ (2019), ‘The Guns of Pluto’ (2020), ‘1,500 Light Years from Home’ (2021) and ‘The Horror at Jupiter’ (2021) have followed. 

Damo Mac Choiligh: Leigh Brackett wrote Westerns, Crime novels and Science fiction - did she regard herself as being primarily a genre writer and was any one of these genres particularly close to her heart? 

Science Fiction was definitely the dearest to her heart. She said in an interview with Tangent in 1976:

“I knew that what I really wanted to write anyway was science fiction. If I want to write about Mars, who’s going to contradict me? Nobody’s been there. And besides, that’s what I really wanted to write about so that’s what I did. Sure enough, there wasn’t a heck of a lot of money in it, but it was a heck of a lot of fun; there’s some awfully nice people.”

Later in the same interview Hamilton is talking about Brackett starting to write crime novels.

Hamilton (to Leigh) “You had quite a strict family back then—”

Brackett- “Oh, yes, very.”

Hamilton: “I got you back at ten oclock one night and you got quite a scolding for being out that late. A few years later, during the War, I picked up this novel she had written called ‘No Good From a Corpse’. It was a tough private-eye novel. The hero was named Edmond, wasn’t he?

Brackett: “Uhm-hmm.”

Hamilton: “I always felt you were dreaming of me [ laughing ]. I hoped.”

Brackett: [chuckling] “I just liked the name.”

Hamilton: “She had written this novel that was full of Humphrey Bogart-type characters. “I grabbed her and said, ‘Doll, youre quite a dish’” and all this sort of thing and people were shooting other people up, and I told my folks…Betty and Phil had looked at that novel…and I said I didn’t know where she got all this experience because I couldnt keep her out past ten o’clock at night [laughing].”

Brackett: “Well, I’ll tell you where I got it. I got it from reading Hammett and Chandler.”

And it is no doubt ‘No Good From a Corpse’ that had Howard Hawks shouting “find me this Brackett guy.” If he really said that, but we’ll talk about that later in the interview.    

How did Hamilton and Brackett meet?

Apparently, they met through Hamilton’s friends in the comic business. I’ll let them tell it. This is from Hamilton and Brackett’s interview in Tangent fanzine from 1976: 

Hamilton: “Well, it was in 1940. Mort Weisinger and Julie Swartz, my old friends, were out in Beverly Hills from New York on vacation, Juile was my agent at that time and Jack Williamson and I went over to see him in Beverly Hills, and Julie said, “ I have a client here, a young girl who lives in Los Angeles, and she’ll be coming through this morning to see me.” So, when she arrived, she was overcome with awe to meet two great science fiction writers like Jack Williamson and myself; but I was quite kind to her, put her at her ease…I think I’ll let her tell her version of it now.” [laughing to Leigh]

Brackett: [laughing] “Well, they were both looking thoroughly auctorial; they were both wearing sweatshirts, looking like geniuses. I nearly fell through the floor. Jack Williamson, Edmond Hamilton, they were the two great names. Seven years later he got around to asking me to marry him.”

Damo Mac Choiligh: Ray Bradbury famously served as Best Man at the Brackett/Hamilton wedding; was he particularly close friends with one or both of them?

Yes, Bradbury was a sort of protégé of both of them. And he must have been a damn good friend as he was as you said, the best man, and they got married at his place in San Gabriel, California.

Here is what they said about Ray Bradbury in the 1976 Tangent interview:

Brackett: “Ray was a member of the LASFS group [Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society] This was before he had started to sell so he was writing like mad and trying like mad to break in. (to Ed): That summer that you and Julie [Swartz] were out there Ray was selling newspapers on the corner about a block or so away from our place.”

Hamilton: “Julie always liked Ray very much, so when he’d lay in some beer and whiskey and so on for our evening parties, he would always get some Coke for Ray. He was such a kid he didn’t drink anything and Julie would say, I'll get a little coke for the kid.” As I say, Ray was very young, and he would bring his stories over for Julie and I to read. Finally I told him, You don’t want us to tell you how to write. You know very well what you want to do and you’re going to do it your own style. What you’re bringing these stories over for is that you want us to tell you they're good. They’re good. So just go ahead and write them.” I think it was that summer he published his first story that he collaborated with Henry Hasse on. [Super Science Stories, November 1941- The Pendulum] Well, he brought the magazine over to show us beaming like the sun, and then he was so overcome that he took the magazine like this and he kissed it and kissed it.” [laughter from all ]

And then there is the story of how Brackett and Bradbury collaborated on the novella ‘Lorelei of the Red Mist,’ This is from an article on Leigh Brackett by Bertil Falk in Bewildering Stories 2007:

At that point when Hawks summoned her to his office, she had prepared half of the 20,000-worder “Lorelei of the Red Mist” for Planet Stories. She had written the line “Then it was gone, and the immediate menace of the foreground took all of Starkes attention.” At the same time that she wanted to accept Hawk’s offer, the assigned story had to be finished. She had to make some kind of decision.

The dilemma was solved. Ray Bradbury was five years younger than Leigh Brackett. She was a kind of mentor and a sounding board for this aspiring writer. She turned to Bradbury and asked him to complete the story. He accepted the challenge.

Where Brackett had stopped writing the story, Bradbury jumped into medias res and continued with the following sentence, “He saw the flock, herded by more of the golden hounds.” Then he completed the story in ten days and ‘Lorelei of the Red Mist’ was published that same year. The rest is, if not exactly history, at least science fiction history.”

Damo Mac Choiligh: I think it's fair to say that 'The Long Tomorrow' is Leigh Brackett's most well-regarded novel. Do you think she was drawn to the agrarian life portrayed in the book? When she and Hamilton married, they moved to Kinsman, Ohio, which Wikipedia tells me is a tiny village. Did they want to embrace a rural lifestyle or small-town life? Or was it more a matter of leaving the city?  

Don Sutton, Brackett and Hamilton historian and their former neighbor said:

She had pitched some Sci-fi to Hollywood. They said it would be too expensive with special effects and production costs,  so she wrote ‘The Long Tomorrow’ as a response. Then they told her that there weren't enough special effects. The book began in Kinsman and I could see the locations in the book.

They bought the house across the street from his family. It was one of the oldest houses in Kinsman. They gardened and remodeled the house. They liked the privacy. In later years they had a winter home in CA.   When they would come back home in the spring they would say ‘It’s good to be home.’   They said their best writing was in Kinsman.”

Brackett and Hamilton talked about The Long Tomorrow” in an interview with Amazing Stories in 1979:

Brackett- “Well, I became fascinated by the Amish way of life. I had not known anything about these people before we moved back to Ohio and I observed their methods of living, which were quite fascinating, and I said “If the atomic collapse does come they’ll go sailing right on because they don’t depend on all the artificial appurtenances of civilization as we do. If our electricity goes we’re sunk, because the entire house runs on it. They don’t bother with it.”

Hamilton- “Before she never even saw them to think about them, but seeing them with a fresh eye she came up with this idea.”

Brackett- “It occurred to me that if this web of civilization ever collapsed, they would be the ones to teach the lost skills of how to exist without it to the survivors.”

Damo Mac Choiligh: The director Howard Hawks famously asked his secretary to find "this guy Brackett" to help William Faulkner write the script for 'The Big Sleep'. Although Hawks had no difficulty when he found out Brackett was a woman, did she encounter sexism from others in Hollywood?

That may just be a story. Brackett was adamant in interview after interview that she was not discriminated against.

In the Tangent interview in 1976 Brackett said

But no, there was never actually any discrimination against women screenwriters. The first job I ever got was at Republic and the highest paid person on the lot was a woman. The discrimination against women came in later, much later, when television came along with all these male-oriented western series and detective stories, and they figured a woman wouldn’t be able to write that kind of thing. Which is where the problem came in. Dorothy Fontana gave a very concise, intelligent discussion of that one night out there at UCLA. This is breaking down now. In other words, they are reading the script to see if its a good script and not who wrote it.”

In a Luna Monthly interview from1976 Brackett said:

I have never in my life thought of myself as A Woman. I was always me, an individual, free-standing and in the round. Whatever I do or think or feel, I do or think or feel it not as some component of a mass group, but as myself. I have always refused to be bound by stereotyping or limited by any other limitations than my own. To me, my sex has never been of the slightest importance outside of the bedroom.”

And later in the same interview she said:

I have never been discriminated against because of my sex, that I know of. Editors aren’t buying the sex, theyre buying stories.”

Damo Mac Choiligh: How did she find it working with a literary giant like Faulkner on 'The Big Sleep'?

In an interview with Starlog from 1974 Brackett says:

I went to the studio the first day feeling absolutely appalled. I had been writing pulp stories for only a few years, and here I was expected to work with William Faulkner, who was one of the great literary lights of the day. I wondered what I had to offer.

That question was quickly resolved when Faulkner came out of his office to meet me carrying a copy of Chandler’s novel. He put it down and announced “I have worked out what we will do. We will write alternate chapters. I will write these chapters and you will write those chapters,” Faulkner went back to his office and I didnt see him again. So, the collaboration was quite simple. I never saw what Faulkner wrote, and he never saw what I wrote. We just turned our pages into Hawks.”

And I have to mention the famous anecdote of Faulkner, while working on the screenplay calling Chandler to ask who killed the Sternwood family's chauffeur, Owen Taylor, to which Chandler famously replied, "I don't know." This might also be just a story, but I’ve always loved it.

Who were some of the writers Hamilton and Brackett grew up reading?

Once again, I’ll let them speak for themselves. Here is what Hamilton said about how he got into Science Fiction in the Tangent interview in 1976:

Some people, myself included, are born with a feeling about these things. In my case I couldn’t even read. This was on a farm in Ohio back in 1908 when I was four years old. I got hold of some magazine that contained an article by H.G. Wells called ‘The Things That Live on Mars’ It was, as I see it now, a follow-up to his very successful ‘War of the Worlds,’ and it had these pictures of tall slender tress; strange looking Martians moving about. I looked at that magazine until it wore out. I wasn’t yet able to read it, to read the article, but those pictures! I sat and wondered if Mars was a long way off and if it was a very strange place. This feeling I say; I think people have a bent towards this, that is to say, I had a very large family and I don’t think any of them read anything but maybe my first story. They just had no interest in science fiction. They were all great readers, but not science fiction.”

And here is what Brackett said in Luna Monthly in 1976:

On or about my eighth year, a milestone event occurred and changed my entire life. Someone gave me a copy of Burroughs ‘The Gods of Mars’. I had always refused to read girls’ books. I liked stories where things happened, the wilder and more exotic the better. I knew all about Indians and pirates and Fuzzy-Wuzzies and Mowgli’s jungle, and the terrible charge of the Highland men. But suddenly, at one blazing stroke, the veil was rent and I had a glimpse of the cosmos. I cannot tell you what a tremendous effect that idea of Mars, another planet, a strange world, had upon my imagination. It set me firmly on the path toward being a science-fiction writer. From then on, I could not get enough of fantasy.”

How did Hamilton get involved in writing comics and did he enjoy writing them?

As was mentioned before, Hamilton had two close friends from the early days of SF fandom, Julius Schwartz and Mort Weisinger who were two of the heads of DC Comics at the time. And in the Tangent interview from 1976 Hamilton said “Well, of course, the main attraction with comic books was that they paid so much more than science fiction.” He wrote many comic stories in the 40s-60s. Various Batman and Superman comics, Mysteries in Space, and Strange Adventures. And he also wrote all the earliest stories of The Legion of Super Heroes which have always been personal favorites of mine.

What parts of Bracketts Empire Strikes Back script ended up in the final script and movie?

According to The Making of The Empire Strikes Back: The Definitive Story Behind the Film by J.W. Rinzler (2010): 

George Lucas said he asked Brackett to write the screenplay based on his story outline. Brackett wrote and finished the first draft title “Star Wars sequel” that was delivered to Lucas shortly before her death from cancer on March 18, 1978, but her version was rejected and Lucas wrote two new drafts and then turned them over to Lawrence Kasdan (who had just written Raider of the Lost Ark) to rework some dialogue.”

And according to a 2021 article by John Saavedra in Den Of Geek:

In this draft there is a love triangle between Luke, Leia and Han Solo. Yoda is named Minch, Luke has a hidden sister named Nellith, Lando Calrissian is Lando Kaddar, Luke’s father is still a distinct character from Darth Vader and appears as a force ghost on Dagobah, and Han Solo, at the end of the script, leaves to search for his uncle Ovan Marek, the most powerful man in the universe after Emperor Palpatine.

However many aspects are similar to the final movie, we still get a version of the Battle of Hoth, the wise words of an old jedi master, the excitement of zooming through a deadly asteroid field, a love triangle, a majestic city in the clouds, unexpected betrayals, and the climatic duel between Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader.”

Where is a good place to buy their works?

Haffner Press http://www.haffnerpress.com/ offers many of Edmond Hamilton and Leigh Bracketts works. 

Did they ever collaborate on a writing project?

In his introduction to The Best of Leigh Brackett (Ballantine, 1977) Hamilton wrote:

We found, when we first began working together, that we had quite different ways of doing a story. I was used to writing a synopsis of the plot first, and then working from that. To my astonishment, when Leigh was working on a story and I asked her, Where is your plot?she answered There isnt any ... I just start writing the first page and let it grow.I exclaimed, ‘That is a devil of a way to write a story!But for her, it seemed to work fine.”

According to Bertil Falks 2007 article in Bewildering Stories on Leigh Brackett:

Over the years the two affected each other’s writing. Leigh Brackett learned plotting from her husband. Even though he plotted his stories before he wrote them, he had nevertheless been a hack writer all the way from
“The Monster-God of Mamurth,” published in Weird Tales, August 1926. Under the influence of his wife, he stopped using his typewriter as a machine gun. He no longer wrote in a hurry and took an interest in carefully forming his sentences.

When Startling Stories asked Hamilton, in 1950, to revive Captain Future for a series of short stories, he was busy working on other assignments. He wrote the first story “The Return of Captain Future.” Then he wrote the synopses for the other stories. But when I visited them, I was told that it was actually Leigh Brackett who wrote them under his guidance using the “pen nameEdmond Hamilton.

In 1964 it was the other way around, when Hamilton expanded Leigh’s short story “Queen of the Martian Catacombs” into “The Secret of Sinharat” and “Black Amazon of Mars” into “The People of the Talisman.” Both stories were originally penned in the 1940’s.”

In the 1976 interview with Tangent Hamilton said:

The fact is I was out of the running for a couple of years with a sickness. When I was recuperating in the hospital I wrote the first half of this story with a pencil and pad. This was Harlan Ellison’s story for THE FINAL DANGEROUS VISIONS. What he wanted was a collaboration between Leigh and myself; you know a formal collaboration. The story is called “Stark and the Star Kings” and if I may say whats funny about it; the first half of it I wrote and its all about Stark. She wrote the part about the Star Kings.”

The story was not published until 2005 in the collection “Stark and the Star Kings.”

Did Hamilton and Brackett have any particular writing habits or routines they stuck with? 

Here is what Brackett said about her writing habits in a 1976 interview with Luna Monthly:

“Working habits. Normally, I get to the typewriter first thing in the morning: otherwise, the day is generally lost. Normally I work all morning. I seldom work in the afternoon, unless the pressure is extreme. I sometimes work at night, though not as much as I used to I don’t know why, exactly.”

And here is what Hamilton said about his writing habits in 1975 in Luna Monthly:

How did I work? I just sat down and wrote like crazy ... I took no notes, or outlines. I started by doing a rewrite of each story, then for quite a few years I wrote everything out first draft and the hell with rewriting. Of course, the fact I wasn’t getting paid much for those stories had something to do with that. As time went on, I became more careful.

About planning my early stories, or not planning them ... I must have given you the wrong impression if you thought I did not plan out those early yams. In fact, for many years I planned each story rigorously and the longer ones in a chapter-by-chapter synopsis. I ceased to do this in later years. I suppose by then I had confidence enough that I would not go badly astray but could develop the plot naturally as I went along. It’s been a long time since I outlined a story in advance. I just start, and let the subconscious develop the thing. One thing, though ... I always had a weakness for wanting to know what the very last line of the story would be. I suppose that is because it is the place where you leave the reader, and therefore I feel it is the final impression you want the story to give.”

What were some of Hamilton and Bracketts interests other than writing? 

Brackett brilliantly spoke about Hamilton and their domestic life in an 1976 interview in Luna  Monthly:  

What is Edmond Hamilton really like? He is Brilliant, of course, with immensely wide-ranging interests. A formidably knowledgeable bibliophile; he can tell you every edition of every book of any note, no matter how obscure, published since Gutenberg started the whole business, and from memory. He has a steel-tap memory. Nothing read is ever lost, and he has read nearly everything. He has an independent mind, forms his own opinion, and is not impressed by prevailing modes of thought. He has never to my knowledge, lost a friend. He is extremely conscientious about his work. I’ve seen him throw away the result of many days hard labor because he thought it wsn’t good enough. He has done many stories, probably more than most writers, on order; to fit a cover, or a particular need—the sort of assignment that is sometimes referred to as hack-work, but I have never known him to ‘hack’ a story, i.e., to write it cynically, without care, without pleasing himself or trying to please the reader. He gives his best to everything he does, which in my book means true professionalism: the ability to turn out a story to order and still make it good. He has never learnt properly how to tie his shoelaces. He is unimaginative in his dress (brown suits, brown slacks, brown sport coat, tan shirts, white for special occasions, one black suit for banquets) but he is fastidious in the extreme. Getting him rigged out to go somewhere is worse than habiting a seventeen-year-old girl for her first prom. He is a creature of habit, like a cat. He placed the furniture; it has never been moved. He loathes housecleaning, doesn’t mind a reasonable amount of dust, but insists on neatness. No jackets tossed on chairs, etc. He loves the country. He does not like big cities. He prefers to visit with a few friends at a time, rather than many. He promised me when we married that, though I might have to pull the plough, he would never ride it. He never has. But he will not work in the garden, except to run the cultivator now and again if I dont catch him in time; he sometimes fails to note where the weeds leave off and the young beans and potatoes begin. He enjoys mowing and spends hours at it. He is not a good carpenter, and where work of that sort is concerned tends to be impatient rather than methodical. He enjoys travelling, but it must be done with a purpose, to see someone or some place of especial interest. On ordinary brief jaunts, the some place is inevitably a bookstore. He does not like to eat out. No comment. He has great charm and a fine sense of humor. Life with him has not been dull.”

Please tell us about Edmond Hamilton and Leigh Brackett Day in Kinsman.

This was a special event that they did for two years in Kinsman. Don Sutton and the Kinsman Historical Society were the main driving force. (As I mentioned before Sutton is a historian and bookstore owner in Kinsman). There were many events including presentations by Stephen Haffner from Haffner Press, a presentation by Don in which he portrayed Hamilton. There was a presentation of Hamilton’s and Brackett’s slide collection which had never been seen by the public before. And there was a walk to Hamiltons grave at dusk where they drank a toast to him.

Sutton told me they are getting a Science Fiction museum in Warren, OH that may be open in 2026. And that currently there are some Science Fiction pieces displayed at the Medici Museum in Howland, OH and that he will be working on a section for Brackett and Hamilton.

What is Hamilton and Bracketts legacy? Why was their work significant at the time? And why is it still important today?

I think that despite Brackett’s nonchalance about her importance as a woman writer, that she (along with all the other women sci-fi writers of the time) threw open a lot of doors for all the women that would come after them. Also, I think she is unique in that she found so much success writing not only pulp stories and novels, but also movie scripts. Her novel, ‘The Long Tomorrow’, as well as her scripts for ‘The Big Sleep’, and of course ‘The Empire Strikes Back’ will all stand the test of time.

For Hamilton, I don’t think he is a household name in the same way that Brackett is, however I do think that a lot of his work is remembered more than his name is. Allen Steele was only able to revive the Captain Future series because it is still remembered. And as long as Batman, Superman, and the Legion of Super-Heroes are still being published Hamilton will be remembered as one of their most prolific writers in the Golden and Silver Ages.

Thursday, January 9, 2025

Orphan Stories from Last Dangerous Visions


(Image is me on Christmas morning with Last Dangerous Visions)

I've been working on a research project for about 3 months and it is finally published!

The project is about all the "Lost Stories" from Harlan Ellison's "Last Dangerous Visions." 

After JMS got a version of the project published in October. I starting wondering what happened to all the stories he didn't use and would any of them see the light of day in the future or were they lost to the cruel mistress of time.

Well, I started reaching out to the authors and since the LDV project started over 50 years ago, some of the author's estates. And here is the article on the wonderful Amazing Stories Magazine: 

 https://amazingstories.com/2025/01/the-last-orphan-stories/

I am eternally grateful to Damo Mac Choiligh who came aboard when I was on the about 10 yard line but exhausted and out of energy and he started doing proofreading, editing, rewriting, and research to get me into the end zone.  

Friday, November 8, 2024

Interview About Hal Clement

 

Science Fiction Book Club

Interview with Paul Levinson (October 2024)

 

Our expert is Paul Levinson, a writer, singer-songwriter, and professor of communications and media studies. Levinson has been interviewed more than 500 times as a commentator on media, popular culture, and science fiction. He wrote an essay “Knowing Hal,” for the collection “Hal's Worlds: Stories and Essays in Memory of Hal Clement.”

 

Matt Taylor: How long after Mission of Gravity was published serially did Clement write the extended ending?

John G: I’m pinch hitting and answering some of the questions. Matt and I figured it out. He has the 2002 Omnibus “Heavy Planet” which features “Mission of Gravity” it’s sequel “Star Light” and a novella “Under” (from 2000) which is an epilogue to Mission of Gravity. The omnibus also has “Lecture Demonstration” another story that takes place on the planet Mesklin and “Whirligig World” which is an essay Clement wrote about his approach to writing science fiction.  

 

John Grayshaw: How did his military service influence his writing? Was he the only Science Fiction writer that witnessed a nuclear bomb detonation?

John G: During WWII Clement was a pilot and copilot of a B-24 Liberator and flew 35 combat missions over Europe. After the war, he served in the United States Air Force Reserve and retired with the rank of colonel.

In a 1996 interview with Warren Lapine, Clement talked in detail about being at a test detonation of a nuclear bomb in 1953. He said, “I was an instructor at the nuclear weapons school at Sandia Base. One of the courses I was teaching was weapons effects. It occurred to some official that I ought to go see what some of the effects were. So, there I was in a trench out in the Nevada desert about four thousand yards from a tower with a forty kiloton weapon mounted to it.”

And here is his description of after it went off. “I had figured out the sort of things that I could expect to have happen. It would be ten or twelve seconds before the sound wave got to me and that sort of stuff. I watched my luminous watch and all of sudden I didn’t need the luminous part to see it. Everything turned into daylight. If you’ve seen burning magnesium you have a general idea of it. So, I knew the thing had gone off and I proceeded to start counting down ten seconds or so before the sound wave got to me. I have to admit that I was taken by surprise when I shouldn’t have been. I’d had a perfectly good course in seismology a few years before. Between two and three seconds the whole trench rocked back and forth as the seismic wave hit. I figured out what had happened immediately, so I wasn’t panicked. Then I waited for the rest of the count and the sound wave got to us. There is no real way to describe it, all you can do is use words like extremely loud. I recognized another phenomenon which no one had told me about before, but I should have thought of. They tell you that in sound waves the motion of the air molecules along the path of the wave is very very tiny. It’s the wave itself that does most of the moving. This is true, if you’re not talking about a sound wave with a period of more than a whole second. With something like that, the molecules move quite a bit, so a wind came from the tower side of the trench and dumped some dirt down my neck. Then the return wave, the low-pressure side of the wave lasted a good deal longer because the high-pressure side could get up to two or three or ten times atmospheric pressure, but there was no way for the lower side to get below zero pressure. So the time had to stretch out, and there was an even longer low-pressure phase and that swept a good deal of dirt from the backside of the trench down my neck. After that the P.A. came on and they told us we could get up. We went up and looked at the mushroom cloud. The stem was just joining the head. It was as you’ve seen in pictures. The reddish brown of oxides of nitrogen was quite visible and there was a blue ionization glow. It was worth watching and I don’t think anyone said anything for quite a while as it went on up. “

John Grayshaw: What makes Clement interesting from a critical perspective?

Paul L: I would say Hal Clement is more than interesting from a critical perspective – he and his work are crucially important to any critical perspective.  As an author frequently published in Analog – more than 15 times – I frequently heard the Editor, Stanley Schmidt, explain the kind of stories he was looking for.  In a word, they were stories in which science itself was the essential bedrock and decisive structure of the story.  Hal Clement defined and excelled in such narratives. Hal was a frequent contributor to Astounding, the original name of Analog, and to Analog as well. Although he wasn’t as well-known as Asimov, Heinlein, and Clarke, Hal Clement was much more of a nuts-and-bolts science fiction author.

John Grayshaw: What do you feel are Clements most significant works? And why?

Paul L: Mission of Gravity is the epitome of hard science fiction – a fiction in which science plays a central, decisive role in a story, or in the reader’s understanding of a story.

John Grayshaw: Do you have personal favorites of his work? And why?

Paul L: It would have to be Mission of Gravity, because, again, it’s such a perfect tableau of why science fiction is called science fiction. It’s a great place to start reading Hal Clement, if you’re new to his work.

John Grayshaw: What are some of Clements works that you feel should be better known than they are?

Paul L: Again, Mission of Gravity should be read by anyone who is interested in what the sub-genre of hard science fiction really is.  And, come to think of it, just about anything written by Hal Clement.

John G: James Davis Nicoll talks about some of Clement’s other stories in an article “Hal Clement at 100”

“Iceworld”- Sallman Ken a science teacher from the planet Sarr, is recruited to assist law enforcement in tracking down the source of a troublesome new narcotic plaguing galactic civilization. Very little is known about the substance, save that it is highly addictive, and it has to be kept under extreme refrigeration until use. Normal room temperature evaporates the substance almost instantly.

“Close to Critical”- Humans and aliens have been content to monitor the planet Tenebra from orbit. Almost 30 times as massive as Earth, with surface temperatures almost 400 degrees Celsius and air pressure hundreds of times that of Earth’s, the planet would kill any exposed human instantly. Even an advanced bathyscaphe would only preserve life for a time. This is not theoretical consideration, for young Aminadorneldo, the son of the ambassador from planet Droom, and his Terran friend Easy Rich, who through a series of misadventures, become marooned on Tenebra’s surface in such a bathyscaphe.

“Noise”- Lit by Twin red dwarf stars, the close-orbiting worlds Kainui and Kaihapa are home to oceans 2700 kilometres deep. There is no land. No life ever evolved in the twins’ acidic oceans. And yet human settlers were able to survive on the planet but they have been content to ignore the rest of the galaxy. Terran linguist Mike Hoani arrives, determined to document Kainui’s languages. His mission will require him to live as the locals do and if he is foolish or unlucky, to die as the locals do.  

And I would add one of my favorites to the list “Needle”- the Hunter, an alien lifeform (when not inside another being, resembling a four-pound green jellyfish ) with the ability to live in symbiosis with and within another creature, is in hot pursuit of another of his kind. Both crash their ships into Earth, in the Pacific Ocean, and both survive the crashes. The Hunter makes its way to shore (its erstwhile host having been killed in the crash) and take up residence in the nearest human being it can find who turns out to be a fifteen-year-old boy.

John Grayshaw: Who were some of the writers Clement grew up reading?

Paul L: I’m not sure I ever talked to Hal specifically about that, but H. G. Wells, and Jules Verne, for sure.

John G: I found a 12-page interview with Hal Clement about A.E. van Vogt. So, he was certainly one Clement read as well.

John Grayshaw: Clement said in an interview “Students occasionally brought in my stuff for autographing. My writing was common knowledge, reaction ranging from near-disbelief to a shrugged-at ‘everyone’s old man does something!’” Was Clement always so nonchalant about his writing?

Paul L: Yes, Hal Clement was the most nonchalant master of science fiction I’ve ever seen or gotten to know.  He had a smile, a warmth, that instantly put you at ease.

John Grayshaw: What kind of research did Clement do for his books?

Paul L: I don’t know this for sure, but, as far as I know, Hal didn’t do much research.  He was already very well versed in the science that was the backbone of his science fiction.

John G: In the 1996 interview with Warren Lapine, Clement was asked how he kept up with technological advances and he said “With difficulty. I subscribe to Scientific American, and I’m a member of the New England Science Museum and I get their publications. I keep my ears open at conventions which are attended by a fair number of competent scientists. Of course, a fair number of people try to sound out their new theories on me. I get a great deal of fun out of trying to decide how these jibe with what we already think we know.”

John Grayshaw: Any stories about Clement attending conventions?

Paul L: Yes, I brought my daughter, around 9-10 years old, to a Boskone.  Would’ve been in the 1990s.  I went downstairs from our room to get some snacks, and there was fire alarm. I was on the ground floor, our room was up on the 8th floor, and the elevators weren’t working.  I didn’t have a cellphone then.  The fire alarm turned out to be a false alarm, the elevators started working again, and I hurried back up to my room.  My daughter told me that she had walked out in the hall, and Hal was in the hall, too.  I had earlier introduced her to Hal, when we first got to the convention.  So, when she saw Hal in the hall, she asked him if he knew where I was.  She told me, he replied, “Oh, if I know your father, he’s probably downstairs selling his books.”  And that instantly made her feel better.

John Grayshaw: What are some of the most interesting things youve found in your research of Clement?

Paul L: Not from my research, but Hal once told me that his wife told him she was ok with him spending money, if necessary, to attend science fiction conventions, etc., as long as that money came from his previous earnings from selling science fiction stories, advances for novels, etc.

John Grayshaw: Are any of Clements works under option for movies or TV?

Paul L: None that I know of, and none listed on IMDb as up and coming.  Which is unfortunate – Hal’s stories would make excellent movies.

John Grayshaw: Did Clement have any particular writing habits or routines he stuck with?

John G: In a 1999 article with H.L. Drake, Drake asks him if he’s someone that has a set schedule every day and Clement answers, “No. I am one of the least organized people you could ever find. In the morning, I get up and putter around and do things that have to be done in the house or outside the house, like mowing the lawn. Then, I’m commonly thinking off and on, even then of what’s going to be written. In the afternoon, I gradually start building up my firmness to get upstairs to the computer and by evening I usually manage.” Then he goes into more detail about his computer, “Yes, I bought the computer after five or six months of investigation in 1984, and I’m still using the same one.”

John Grayshaw: What is Clements legacy? Why was his work significant at the time? And why is it still important today?

Paul L: His legacy is there’s a need and a thirst for hard science fiction.  There are many people out there with a love of science, but for one reason or another, they don’t end up pursuing that love in their life’s work.  Hard science fiction is especially satisfying to them, as well as to working scientists.  It’s a great way of educating people in science.  And Hal Clement’s work has inspired some important current writers, such as John Stith, whose novel Redshift Rendezvous hinges on a scientific understanding about how travelling faster than the speed of light could change the way people move and live (and die) on such a fast-traveling vessel.

Tuesday, October 29, 2024

SFBC- Group Read History

 Group Read History


2015 (eligible again as of 2019)
Aug Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury
Sept. The Martian by Andy Weir
Oct. Ready Player One by Ernest Cline
Nov. Dune by Frank Herbert
Dec. The Man in the High Castle by Phillip K. Dick
2016 (eligible again as of 2020)
Jan. The Three-Body Problem by Liu Cixin
Feb. The Time Machine by H.G. Wells
Mar. The Dispossessed by Ursula Le Guin (Also read in 2022 so won’t be eligible again until 2026)
Apr. Rendezvous With Rama by Arthur C. Clarke
May Ringworld by Larry Niven
Jun. Leviathan Wakes by James S.A. Corey
Jul. Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie
Aug. Dark Matter by Blake Crouch
Sep. Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler (Also read is 2024, won’t be eligible again until 2028)
Nov. Nightfall by Isaac Asimov and Robert Silverberg
Dec. The Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle (Also read in 2023 won’t be eligible again until 2027)
2017 (eligible again as of 2021)
Jan. We by Yevgeny Zamyatin
Feb. A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller Jr.
Mar. Guards, Guards by Terry Pratchett
Apr. Time and Again by Clifford Simak
May The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (Also read in 2023 won’t be eligible again until 2027)
Jun. The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin
Jul. Shards of Honor by Lois McMaster Bujold
Aug. Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
Sep. Foundation by Isaac Asimov
Oct. The Mote in God’s Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle (Also read in 2023 won’t be eligible again until 2027)
Nov. The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi
Dec. Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
2018 (eligible again as of 2022)
Jan. Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan
Feb. Lathe of Heaven by Ursula K. Le Guin (Also read in 2022 so won’t be eligible again until 2026)
Mar. 1984 by George Orwell
Apr. Downbelow Station by C.J. Cherryh
May Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky
Jun. The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester (Also read in 2022 so won’t be eligible again until 2026)
Jul. Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Aug. Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds
Sep. Roadside Picnic by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky
Oct. The October Country by Ray Bradbury
Nov. Dragon’s Egg by Robert L. Forward
Dec. The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (Also read in 2022 won’t be eligible again until 2026)
2019 (eligible again as of 2023)
Jan. The Ship Who Sang by Anne McCaffrey
Feb. The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin
Mar. The Pride of Chanur by C.J. Cherryh
Apr. Footfall by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
May Embassytown by China Mieville
Jun. More than Human by Theodore Sturgeon
Jul. The Player of Games by Iain M. Banks
Aug. Cities in Flight by James Blish (Classic) Calculating Stars by Mary Robinson Kowal (Modern)
Sep. The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (Classic) (Also read in 2024 won’t be eligible again until 2028)
Planetfall by Emma Newman (Modern)
Oct. Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny (Classic) Permafrost by Alastair Reynolds (Modern)
Nov. The Caves of Steel by Isaac Asimov (Classic) Anathem by Neal Stephenson (Modern)
Dec. UBIK by Philip K. Dick (Classic) All Systems Red (Murderbot #1) by Martha Wells (Modern)
2020 (eligible again as of 2024)
Jan. Ringworld by Larry Niven (Classic) The Peripheral by William Gibson (Modern)
Feb. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein (Classic) Old Man’s War by John Scalzi (Modern)
Mar. Way Station by Clifford Simak (Classic) (Also read in 2024 won’t be eligible again until 2028) The Atrocity Archives by Charles Stross (Modern)
Apr. Use of Weapons by Iain M. Banks (Classic) Blindsight by Peter Watts (Modern) (Also read in 2024 won’t be eligible again until 2028)
May Creature of Light and Darkness by Roger Zelazny (Classic) Exhalation: Stories by Ted Chiang (Modern)
Jun. The Gods Themselves by Isaac Asimov (Classic) Singularity Sky by Charles Stross (Modern)
Jul. City by Clifford Simak (Classic) (Also read in 2024 won’t be eligible again until 2028)
Children of Ruin by Adrian Tchaikovsky (Modern)
Aug. Dragonflight by Anne McCaffrey (Classic) Fallen Dragon by Peter F. Hamilton (Modern)
Sep. Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut (Classic) The City We Became by N.K. Jemisin (Modern)
Oct. A World Out of Time by Larry Niven (Classic) Spin by Robert Charles Wilson (Modern)
Nov. Tau Zero by Poul Anderson (Classic) The Oppenheimer Alternative by Robert J. Sawyer (Modern)
Dec. The Many-Coloured Land by Julian May (Classic) A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martine (Modern)
2021 (eligible again as of 2025)
Jan. Eon by Greg Bear (Classic) We Are Legion (We Are Bob) by Dennis E. Taylor (Modern)
Feb. Rendezvous With Rama by Arthur C. Clarke (Classic) Perdido Street Station by China Mieville (Modern)
Mar. The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin (Classic) The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson (Modern)
Apr. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick (Classic) Sea of Rust by C. Robert Cargill (Modern)
May Kindred by Octavia Butler (Classic) Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro (Modern)
Jun. Foundation by Isaac Asimov (Classic) Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir (Modern)
Jul. To Your Scattered Bodies Go by Philip Jose Farmer (Classic) The City and the City by China Mieville (Modern)
Aug. The City and the Stars by Arthur C. Clarke (Classic) The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet by Becky Chambers (Modern)
Sep. Integral Trees by Larry Niven (Classic) Aurora by Kim Stanley Robinson (Modern)
Oct. Gateway by Frederik Pohl (Classic) Great North Road by Peter F. Hamilton (Modern)
Nov. The End of Eternity by Isaac Asimov (Classic) Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie (Modern)
Dec. Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke (Classic) Termination Shock by Neal Stephenson (Modern)
2022 (won’t be eligible again until 2026)
Jan. Chrysalids by John Wyndham (Classic) Chronoliths by Robert Charles Wilson (Modern)
Feb. The Stainless Steel Rat by Harry Harrison (Classic) Pushing Ice by Alastair Reynolds (Modern)
Mar. The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester (Classic) Station Eleven by Emily Mandel (Modern)
Apr. The Dispossessed by Ursula K. Le Guin (Classic) The Kaiju Preservation Society by John Scalzi (Modern)
May A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (Classic) A Closed and Common Orbit by Becky Chambers (Modern)
Jun. Dawn by Octavia Butler (Classic) Hydrogen Sonata by Iain M. Banks (Modern)
Jul. Neuromancer by William Gibson (Classic) Semiosis by Sue Burke (Modern)
Aug. Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein (Classic) Upgrade by Blake Crouch (Modern)
Sep. The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (Classic) 2312 by Kim Stanley Robinson (Modern)
Oct. Lathe of Heaven by Ursula K. Le Guin (Classic) Record of a Spaceborn Few by Becky Chambers (Modern)
Nov. Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke (Classic) Stories of Your Life and Others" by Ted Chiang (Modern)
Dec. Foreigner by C.J. Cherryh (Classic) Hull Zero Three by Greg Bear (Modern)
2023 (won’t be eligible again until 2027)
Jan. The Mote in God’s Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle (Classic) Ship of Fools/Unto Leviathan by Richard Paul Russo (Modern)
Feb. Red Planet by Robert Heinlein (Classic) Terminal World by Alastair Reynolds (Modern)
Mar. The Fifth Head of Cerberus by Gene Wolfe (Classic) The Quiet War by Paul McAuley (Modern)
Apr. Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny (Classic) Leviathan Wakes by James S.A. Corey (Modern)
May Consider Phlebas by Iain M. Banks (Classic) Wool by Hugh Howey (Modern)
June The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (Classic)
The Mountain in the Sea by Ray Nayler (Modern)
July Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes (Classic) Sea of Tranquility by Emily St. John Mandel (Modern)
Aug Maze of Death by Philip K. Dick (Classic) Shards of Earth by Adrian Tchaikovsky (Modern)
Sep. Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson (Classic) Pattern Recognition by William Gibson (Modern)
Oct. The Sheep Look Up by John Brunner (Classic)
Passage by Connie Willis (Modern)
Nov. The Snow Queen by Joan D. Vinge (Classic)
The Telling by Ursula K. Le Guin (Modern)
Dec. The Time Ships by Stephen Baxter (Classic) The Stainless Steel Rat Returns by Harry Harrison (Modern)
2024 (won’t be eligible again until 2028)
Jan. Blood Music by Greg Bear (Classic) Blindsight by Peter Watts (Modern)
Feb. The Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler (Classic)
The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson (Modern)
Mar. Contact by Carl Sagan (Classic) The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August by Claire North (Modern)
Apr. The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell (Classic) The Road to Roswell by Connie Willis (Modern)
May Hothouse by Brian Aldiss (Classic)
House of Suns by Alastair Reynolds (Modern)
Jun. Frankenstein by Mary Shelley (Classic) Klara and the Sun by Kazuo Ishiguro (Modern)
Jul. Helliconia Spring by Brian Aldiss (Classic) Starter Villain by John Scalzi (Modern)
Aug. Schismatrix by Bruce Sterling (Classic)
Accelerando by Charles Stross (Modern)
Sep. A Talent for War by Jack McDevitt (Classic) Annihilation by Jeff VanderMeer (Modern)
Oct. City by Clifford Simak (Classic) Alien Clay by Adrian Tchaikovsky (Modern)
Nov. The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (Classic)
The Birthday of the World and Other Stories by Ursula K. Le Guin (Modern)
Dec. Way Station by Clifford Simak (Classic) The Mercy of Gods by James S.A. Corey (Modern)
2025 (won’t be eligible again until 2029)
Jan. TBD (Classic) Orbital by Samantha Harvey (Modern)
(Please note: A three year restriction rule was voted on by members in Jan. 2018. Meaning a Group Read can not be repeated for three years. Therefore novels discussed in 2021 can be chosen again in 2025, 2022 novels can not be repeated until 2026, and so on).